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Tanaya's avatar

Interesting survey. But is there any Is there any data on how diverse the Indian diaspora is? Are there actually a considerable number of people from lower castes? It's easy for upper-caste individuals to claim they don't believe in caste, but is that what they actually practice?

I'm not sure how to find this data, but based on my strong feeling and personal experience, India is not creating enough opportunities for people from lower castes to become economically capable of going abroad.

Example from personal experience:

I’ve worked in Copenhagen and the UK for Indian companies. In both places, on my floor—which typically comprised about 100 people—I couldn’t find a single person from a lower caste background. The upper-caste colleagues were often quite casteist. They would try to identify someone's caste based on their surname or eating habits and treat them accordingly. In both the UK and Copenhagen, all the senior managers were upper caste, and some asked me about my caste as early as the second conversation—essentially during introductions.

I believe, once people from lower castes do manage to go abroad, it becomes comparatively easier (than in India) to break caste barriers.

But are we creating enough opportunities within India?

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Religions/religious systems provide necessary comforts to adherents. What is often missed is that these systems provide differing comforts to males than they do to females. And that these comforts prioritize male needs.

To females, religion provides, at its most essential level, something close to solace. And to males, it provides a "place" within a male-dominated, and desired, hierarchy. Anything beyond those two differing comforts is proved extraneous in all diasporas.

As a person moves further away from a religious epicenter, each person—male and female— takes what provides the most comfort and begins discarding other part of that ideology. Misogyny and caste are *both* borne of a male desire to have everything ranked within their preferred hierarchy. Women do not dare, for example, to aspire to be the Roman Catholic pope. They are left with a bit of solace for their all-around low status within that system.

Females are left to take whatever comfort and consolation they can from all these ideologies. In return, females perform almost all the sustaining tasks of those religions. Because without these services, females are not even allowed a bit of solace.

When females are no longer satisfied with mere consolation for a misogynistic, male-centered system, the religious system/culture will weaken and fail.

Although the behavior of the diaspora of any ideology is interesting, it is even more important to see what remains in the diaspora. Although marginally better for most females, the diaspora of all religions reveal the truth of religions: they serve to provide males what they want and need and females are left with occasional scraps of comfort for which many hours of service are required. This is true in Western and Eastern ideologies.

Religions are the patriarchy's greatest deceptive cons. Slowly and unevenly, this is being revealed to females. Even those who cannot admit it out loud, or to strangers, pollsters, their own families. But more of us have seen through the patriarchal veil. We are just silent most of the time. We sacrifice the promised "solace" and we see just what religion has really done to us.

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